Bought in January 2012 directly from Odyssey Audio, these were display Lorelei's used at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest as regular Lorelei's and then upgraded at my request to full Kismet models with upgraded crossovers and WBT terminals. The cabinets in their stunning blue are NOT perfect cosmetically; the channels that run on each side do not have full paint coverage that a perfect pair would have, and there are a few small areas where the paint is somewhat less than ideal. To my eye they look quite nice, but IF you need things to be perfect these are not for you. BUT, if you wish to save 2/3's off retail these ARE for you ! And, they SOUND GREAT ! Check out the rave review at Positive Feedback online of the regular Lorelei's and then add a lot more detail, transparency and body. I know, as I have now owned both a pair of Lorelei's and now these Kismet's. Changing life priorities dictate selling. I have new double boxes from odyssey that these were shipped in to me from Indiana to Chicago suburbs. The are heavy so shipping will not be cheap. Please contact with any questions. i do not take paypal. Rated a conservative 6.