I purchased this terrific cable from a respected audiogoner in december, and he indicated he had it for 1 week. He trades equipment a LOT, and also said that silver seemed to work better in his system. My experience with this cable has resulted in amazing sound with my tube integrated and Odyssey speakers. But I have decided to try using the same cables for the entire system, something I have never done, and I just cannot afford to do this using the 1016's - two children in college is the priority. The cables are probably not broken in yet, maybe 200 hours ? They are very detailed, warm, full and very, very pleasing. Check out the rave positive feedback reviews. They look brand new, I see no flaws. The price includes fedex ground to the lower 48 which is the only place I will ship. I have the hard pelican case. Please no offers on these; if they don't sellI I will store them, lend to a friend, etc.Rated "8" only for second owner. I do no take paypal, but I do answer questions promptly and politely. Thanks for looking.