$10,000 Speaker Cables For $1350 8' Nuclear Systems Cable W/Carbon Fiber Furutech New Audiogon Name Old Seller

New Business Name And Account, Old Seller
   I need to point out that I have been selling the military cable for almost ten years under the audiogon name aintitgr8. I recently switched to becoming a dealer for manufacturers of audiophile bulk cables, terminations, and other things like power conditioners and fuses, all of the things that improve any system. In this transition to a dealer status I seem to have lost my well earned feedback that went with the old name, which reflected years of history, that the military cable was the real deal from guys with ruthless systems, and that I am knowledgeable and reliable.
   The new business entity I am doing here is like what I did as a dealer selling equipment and speakers in that I bought and tried hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of great equipment, compared it to others so as to understand how it's performance stacked up to price points of other respected equipment. More importantly I spent literally hundreds and hundreds of hours determining which components and wire made the biggest and best improvements for the money spent in given configurations. The idea now (and I had no idea where the cable industry had gone) is to try tens of thousands of dollars worth of bulk cable available to a higher echelon of do it yourselfers, so that I can find the price point standouts and narrow down to some entry, mid priced, and higher end and ultimate cables. For the DIY person who wants the best, you can buy a set of $385 each power plugs or the Furutech Carbon Fiber spades and bananas that are $200 a pair ($800 for the speaker cable set) and the bulk cable that is $200 a foot, and for $1500 to $2000 you can have a power cord that manufacturers sell for $8000. I can narrow you down to what I have tried and found to be the best for a given price. There are entry and mid priced components that make cables that are sold for thousands that can be had for a few hundred dollars. The person who is willing to pay attention to the fact that many outrageously good components and cable are available that are the same exact things used in ridiculously high priced products.
  The smaller manufacturer selling direct has an advantage over bigger ones that need distributors and dealers marketing larger numbers of their products. Starting with retail prices on terminations, the small operation can typically get away with doubling up the cost of his components from the wholesale to the retail price, and add in a couple of hundred for assembly time. Some cables are easy and can be done in an hour or under, others are a bitch and might take hours. I can operate in that DIY prices and make cables up for you for a minimal charge. I have spent a fair amount of money on specialty tools that don't make sense for the person who does this here and there. When that smaller manufacturer gets a bit busier and starts having to hire people and spend more money and time marketing, they need to get a bigger profit margin. They still have an advantage over the bigger entity that has distributors and dealers. They can make a product that is competitive with things that cost thousands more. 
   As a manufacturer goes big time their margins have to be based on a formula of markups on the cost of components. Retail markup for an entity that has distributors and dealers is staggering, and it completely dictates the cost of the components that can be used. If you take the $800 worth of Carbon Fiber Furutech spades, add a cable that costs them $125 a foot for an added $2000, they mark up their figured labor and production overheads of a few hundred or more, they will have to mark that $2500 or so up to where they are solidly profitable which will be $3000 or more. That's their price to a distributor, who will need make at least 30%, so now the price to a dealer from the distributor will be $3900 or more. The dealer will want to have at least a 40% margin so add $1600 and we are at $5500. I can assure you that this scenario is on the light side of where a company like Nordost or Kimber ends up.
   My point here is that I am at the place where I can sell cables at DIY prices with a small markup. Right now I'm in promotional mode and you'll never see the prices I'm offering now past a few weeks. You will be spending upwards of $10,000 or more for speaker cables that are better than this. There may be some products out there as good, but they will be at least three times more simply because it isn't going to happen with anything but the very best bulk cable and terminations out there, those come at a price that is what it is. This set of speaker cables will allow you to hear everything that is going on with your interconnects, but do that with a neutrality that will never emphasize any bad characteristics. If you hear harshness and edginess, brightness, or any overemphasized tones it's coming from interconnects, PERIOD.
   I spent three months putting a reference system together that allows me to take any given interconnect, speaker cable, or power cord cable, and try several different terminations or plugs on the same wire and hear the differences in just the terminations. I figure if I can't hear it how can I sell it? Most audiophiles are worried about the differences in different manufacturer's cables, I'm dealing with the differences in the base cables and then what effect different terminations are having on that. I'm thinking it's safe to say I'm pretty good at hearing the difference between two cables. I am developing relationships based on pointing you toward things that make huge differences and lead toward better ones, for me it's about long term relationships.
This Military Cable That I have For Sale
   This cable is ridiculously good, and it should be. It was developed at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars, our military spares no expense achieving it's goals, defense contractors building nuclear systems pay hundreds of dollars a foot for it. The specifications needed for this wire would have looked like what a manufacturer of audiophile cable would have wanted if they said cost was no objective and it was okay to spend a few hundred million developing the best. First they needed shielding that could protect against the EMP developed with a nuclear blast that takes out electronics from quite a distance away. The cable industry has long been aware that shielding comes at the price of coloration because of field effect distortion. Field effect has been negated in a way that creates an ultimate neutrality. The other pertinent thing they wanted was serious conductance, the lowest cable amplitude losses possible. This means more of the fine details that go into the cable get to the other end. So we are looking at a cable that is impervious to RF or magnetic interference, it has no field effect coloration, and it is capable of revealing the absolute finest details. This all comes with a neutrality and smoothness that few speaker cables are capable of. It was not developed for the audiophile industry but it may as well have been.
   Here's where I'm at with this cable, I have somewhere around 1500 feet left. As speaker cable it trashes Valhalla that costs ten times as much. As power cord it performs with power cords costing over ten times more with the Furutech Nano tech plugs. It makes RCA interconnects that blows away my long standing neutral reference of JPS Labs SC2 that were $850, and I need to clarify that it blows these away with instantly noticeable improvements. I am going to price the cable I have left according to what the cables it outperforms costs. The catch-22 is that I need feedback on this new entity, and I am offering well made cables with serious terminations at DIY prices so as to get the feedback it warrants. I will be shifting over to the serious bulk cables made by Furutech, Oyeide, and Acrolink, etc. when I run out of this, and I want the price of this cable to be in relationship with the replacements I'll be selling. The prices I am selling things right now will go up to market value as my prices go up and especially after I run out. When I come up with something that outperforms anything you buy from me I will give you 100% of what you paid toward an upgrade when you get to the point where that makes sense. I know where a cost effective thing can be used to reveal another more expensive wire or cable that will make a bigger difference. I have specialized in high end cost effective performance. I'll discuss the order I recommend for wire upgrades, and it starts with speaker wire, I'll cover why that is.
   My normal price for an eight foot set of this would be $800 for the cable alone, $800 for Carbon Fiber Furutech spades or banana plugs, (the bananas are a bit more than the spades), and a couple of hundred to cover graphite colored mesh jacket, shrink tubing and assembly. They will be around $1850. I can also use the very good Furutech spades and bananas that cost half as much and it would save you about $400, so at this promotional price they would be $950. This wire is cryo treated, and I'll burn it in for a few days so that it saves you a couple hundred hours of breaking in. You can use buy it now but need to pay me direct. I can take credit cards through my wife's veterinary business.
   I'll ship these priority for $12.00 insured, and I always sell under money back conditions. I have never had anyone ask for their money back with this military cable.
The Furutech Carbon Fiber Spades (CF-101R) and Bananas (CF-102R)
   These are the best spades and banana plugs I have found. The military cable is so transparent and neutral that I've found that terminations get in the way of their neutrality in one way or another. I thought maybe the heavy spades by WBT would work, especially since I've seen them on some very expensive speaker cables. They trashed the sound of the military cable. I noticed there is a set of used Kimber for $17,000 that listed for $23,000 that uses WBT spades, these Furutech's are way better. I guess at a DIY price of about $800 a set they should be huh? Furutech is putting a tremendous amount of innovation and technology into their power connections, cables, and terminations. They have discovered and patented copper manufacturing techniques that go way beyond Oxygen Free Copper, and try every way to polish and plate conductor metals looking for ways to make the best sound possible. They are making extremely good audiophile cables and terminations.
   There are only a few manufacturers making cable, and most manufacturers are using these. Furutech has discovered and patented breakthrough methods of making larger copper crystal structures that when drawn out into strands have single crystals that are meters long without breaks. They are making some bulk cables that cost DIY people as much as $600 a meter or more. It is these bulk cables that manufacturers are using with top echelon terminations to make cables that cost thousands to tens of thousands of dollars. The DIY power cord components that cost you $1800 are going to be an $8000+ power cord. $800 spades and banana plugs with the best bulk cables are going to be priced at close to $10,000 or way more once they mark them up.
The Order To Upgrade Cables, The Pure Logic
Speaker Cable First I wanted to go over how an upgrade works with the other interrelated cable, talking about speaker cables, interconnects, and then power cords. Only one set of cables allows you to hear everything going on with the other two when it has a high degree of resolution, the speaker cables. No matter how bad or good the interconnects are you are going to hear everything the interconnects are doing. Do the interconnects first and the speaker cables will not let you hear the really subtle characteristics that mark the differences. Try several interconnects with inferior speaker cables and you won't be hearing all of the differences, worse than that you might miss a really nasty coloration that you won't like at all when you upgrade the speaker cable. Many people would thing the nastiness comes from the speaker cable itself because logic might lead to that conclusion. Not doing speaker cables first means that any power cord or interconnect upgrades will not be fully heard until they are upgraded.
Interconnects After Speaker Cables Once you can really hear what's going on when you try interconnects you will be able to hear character and subtle details that won't be heard with inferior speaker cables. The best interconnects in the world are only going to show you what the speaker cables are revealing. If they are not transparent they will not be revealing the best the i/c's are capable of. The same holds true for power cords, they are capable of making differences that people find hard to believe. Yet how many people do we hear saying that they can't tell the difference between power cord grades. It's because lower end power cords make a big difference in a lower end system, but the extra things the higher end cords are doing isn't revealed by either the interconnects or speaker wire.
Power Cords After Speaker Cables And Interconnects This is the order the cables allows you to hear what the the other things are doing. Switching the order means that you will have weak links that are keeping you from hearing the full potential of the other things. Now what will happen when going out of order is that doing the upgrade will make it seem like that cable makes far more difference than it really does as the right cumulative order is approached. I was talking to a dealer who recommends power cords first simply because he knows that having performance you can't hear waiting to be unleashed makes far more impact with interconnects because what the power cords are doing adds to the improvement. I like the order where each upgrade is letting you hear what each new thing is fully doing. It's far more gratifying to hear and understand the full potential of each upgrade. Put it this way, when you go to power cords first you could try an entry grade good cord, and mid and high end costing thousands more, your biggest improvement you hear will be the entry grade because they all do what you are hearing there. The difference between that and mid, and mid to high end will be negligible and your opinion will be that these cables are not worth the extra money. Going with good speaker cables and interconnects first the differences in the three grades of power cords will blow you away like few other differences in audio, they are that profound.
   Funny story about when I was selling systems and components. I was showing a guy a $1500 Belles 150-A Hotrod amplifier. I had half a million dollars worth of equipment sitting there, he wanted to hear that amp in a serious system, so I popped it into some pretty nice stuff including statement level interconnects and speaker cables on a really nice set of Meadowlark speakers that were overachievers for $3500 speakers. He was blown away by how good that amp sounded, I told him wait until he heard what a $500 power cord did to it. He was stunned that a power cord could make that much difference in the bass detail. I was laughing and said now that you've heard that we'll try a $1500 Kaptovator. He said no way when he heard it, he literally said he wanted to watch me switch cords because he didn't believe I wasn't switching out more than the just those two power cords. We spent almost two hours going back and forth between them, he said he was buying one he just couldn't make up his mind which one. He decided he had to have the $1500 one, but it was a policy of mine to sell power cords and wire for a small margin over cost, so he got it for about $800. So when he had made up his mind on the Kaptovator I told him I was really going to mess with his head, I wanted him to try another power cord. ($3500 Aluminata). He was stunned when he heard what that thing did on his $1500 amp. He literally was talking about getting that. I told him he was risking divorce if he went out to buy a $1500 amp and added $2400 for a power cord. I did sell him an $850 interconnect though and other upgrades later. You will not hear differences like this unless your interconnects and speaker cables are top notch.