Probably my favourite speaker of all time. I purchased new 2 years ago from dealer and were dealer installed. Have not moved since. Downsizing has forced me to put these beauties up for sale. The combination of Vac Sig MkIIa and Vac 450S along with these beauties were my favourite system of all time. These really have no faults and if someone says that Maggies have no bass, they should hear the 20.7s with proper amplification. These come with the optional Ferrari red trim which makes all the others seem dowdy. Look way better in person too. Smoke free home and there are no issues at all.