These are brand new and unblemished. I bought this pair from Great Britain with their GBP in decline. They were sold as a 4M pair, but they are only 3.5M. Indeed , the box says 4m, but they are not, they are 3.5M. I purchased this pair so that I could reach my left speaker which is just short of 4M away from amp. Consequently, I purchased a single strand of 4M to reach my left speaker, and am using a 9/10 3M pair of Ztron Anacondas for right and center speakers. So this 3.5M brand new and pristine pair that have never even been hooked up are on the block at $2995. If you would prefer a 9/10 3M broken-in pair I would sell that pair for 2750. and keep the others. I will not be selling both pairs, as these are phenomenal, unlike anything I've ever heard in lfelike and 3d presentation. I love them. Either pair are spade to spade, (bananas can easily be screwed in to replace these spades by puchasing Shunyata twist-on bananas.-a feature of theirs) All bags and boxes are included. Please add 3% for paypal, and 35. for shipping in the continental US.