These are the Beethoven classics. I'm the second owner. Speakers are in great condition. I've read online that many people prefer the sound of the Beethoven classics over the new Grand series. Upon inspection I found one mark but it will not show in photos. I have included in the sale Mapleshade heavyfeet brass footers and custom speaker plinths. The brass footers and maple plinths made a dramatic upgrade in an already great sounding speaker so it does not make sense to sell separately. I do have the original spikes. I'm happy to audition these speakers. Unfortunately the previous owner did not keep the original boxes so pickup is preferred. I am willing to travel to meet anyone in the greater N.Y. metropolitan area. I'm located on Long Island. If necessary I will have boxes made. For more information on the Mapleshade products go to www.mapleshadestore.com. For more photos please email me. Thanks for looking.