I purchased these about a year ago from an authorized Wilson dealer. They came direct to me from Wilson Audio in Utah where there went through Wilson's refurbish program. Speakers are Dark Titanium and were gone through top to bottom and then they were buffed out and sealed and crated. They really are as new--factory fresh. Speakers come complete with perfect grills, spike kit in black and manual. I would prefer to sell these locally because of the weight, but I have all original packing material and crates so they will travel safely. Non smoking house. Paypal fee of 3% applies and shipping is not included.