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Thanks for taking a look!

As always,, comments and suggestions are ALWAYS very welcome!

Well, i finally did it, i completely split my 2 systems

home theater and 2 channel.

With the completion of sound treatments, i have some Minor decorating left as well, the room is MUCH more functional than i ever dreampt!

I highly recommend doing something like this. This was an existing space that i modfied heavily using alot of imagination. The value is immesurable. The room IS the most important part of the overall experience.

Thanks again!
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    • Proceed AVP-S
    I went back to the Venerable Proceed, ease of use was the main concern!
    • Transparent Reference XL, Ultra XL and Super MM
    RCA unbalanced
    • B&K AV 5000 II
    Looking for a Proceed Amp 5
    • Transparent Bi-Cable LCR
    2 20ft 1 10ft, compared to Alot of different cables and these just seemed to fit best
    • B&W Nautilus 804
    Very neutral and accurate, Red Cherry finish.
    • B&W Nautilus HTM-1
    Huge upgrade from the HTM-2
    • M&K MX 350 MKII
    Switched subs and put the B&W in my 2 channel with my 803 Diamonds.
    • Michael Wolff Carbon Ribbon, 2 source, 2 gain
    Smooth and detailed, Great bass extension.
    • Proceed PMDT
    Great video and sound, reall surprising for its age.
    • Vidikron VPF-50HDX
    Ferrari Red 7 inch guns compatible with all hi def formats.
    • Runco Scaler
    i think its a VX-1, super EZ to use!
    • Straight Wires Silver RGBHV
    20 foot, a must for good video quality.
    • Dishnet 6000
    Hi-Def with both add on cards installed, im NOT impressed,, i should probably switch back to DirecTv.
    • Transparent Component video RGB
    1 meter upper end version of Transparent

Comments 13

Owner
System edited: I regressed! (or PROgressed) The proceed equipment just,,, suits me better than the Aragon system. (when will manufacturers learn to build an EASY to use remote,,, besides Proceed that is) Sound and picture are fantastic with the AVPS and PMDT combo. The M&K sub was a bit of a step back from the matching B&W 825, but certainly no slouch. ALL IN ALL, ITS FANTASTIC! GET A CRT PROJECTOR AND BE HAPPY! Comments are ALWAYS welcome, thanks for looking!

mrfastguy250aol

Owner
System edited: As you can see,, it is nearly impossible to take photos of the actual picture on a projector! This is just about as close as i can get!

mrfastguy250aol

Nice Setup! Yeah I can't take digital pictures of the screen, even though I've tried a tripod, manual settings, slow shutter speeds.. it still doesn't do it justice.

cytocycle

Owner
System edited: I don't know why or what im doing wrong, but it sure is hard to take good pictures of this! I'll keep playing with it and hopefully get something so you can get an accurate idea of how this came out!

mrfastguy250aol

Owner
System edited: The lighting is almost all in as you can see in the newest pictures, the effect i was going for looks almost perfect! Kind of hard to take pictures that really get the feel of the amount of light that is in the room and of course carpet and trim (off white or antique white) will also change the feel of the room directly. THANKS FOR LOOKING AGAIN!

mrfastguy250aol

Owner
System edited: As you can see the room is now ready for its final coat of paint, Getting the accurate color in a photo is a bit of a challenge. The color is a medium dark olive green, i will probably use antique white trim and accents, The fixtures on the sides will hold 6 sconces around the room on remote controlled dimmers. I may entertain using rope lighting underneath the trim on the floor above the carpeting, anyone with any experience i sure would appreciate what you think of that. For now I am doing to use a Hi Gain DaLite model C. The Projector is a Vidikron VPF-50HDX with either a Runco or Vidikron BRS-3800 scaler. In the picture on the right hopefully you can see the built in where all the A/V equipment will go as i have Longer Transparent Super Bi-Cables for the Front Center and Right speakers. I obviously want to be able to use this room for home theater, however i really am going to explore 2 channel and build that from what i have now which already sounds very good comparing it to ultra high end systems in stores ive heard. After the lighting, trim, carpet, furniture etc. is installed i am going to consult a sound engineer to plan sound treatments. I would have rather planned it the other way around but i was limited to size and placement of the room and electronics. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT ON THIS SYSTEM! IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE PICTURES OF FURTHER DETAILS OR MORE SYSTEM INFORMATION THAN IS CONTAINED HERE PLEEEEEEEEASE DON'T HESITATE! Thanks so much for looking! screen that is 92 inches in width

mrfastguy250aol

Owner
unfortunately, this was an existing space, so i had no control over the size of the room, the only thing i had control over was the roof, and i made it 9 foot cathedral instead of 8 feet flat, even in my infancy i figured this could not possibly be bad.
i cannot change where the doors are or are going about all i can change is speaker placement and sound treatment locations, and mostly im concerned with the best wiring for what im doing. I really would like help with isolating the ground which is what i read is sonically best but i dont know how to do it. any help is appreciated as well as other suggestions for sound treatments or soundproofing.

mrfastguy250aol

Yeah with a new dedicated room from scratch, your wisest bet is by far professional consulting! A sonic nightmare awaits most in your shoes, simply from lack of knowledge. And there's LOTS TO KNOW in doing this stuff right!!!...most do it very wrong, even with the level of gear you've chosen! And you're going out of your way, you want to do it right.
The room, setup, speaker, seating, acoustical treatment considerations, calibrating, tweaking, power conditioning/distribution,and knowledge and experience will be at least 2/3's of the overall result!
Getting "input" from most will confuse, and you'll still know very little!
consult those who've done this for years, and often!..and on a high pro level for aliving. There's no substitute.
Basically, there's a bagillion ways to do it all wrong, and end up with poor to mediocre audio/visual. I know, I've done hundreds of systems, and lived this stuff for years.
Anyway, good luck.
Basics for you, should you go it alone, are to read all the back issues of "Home Theater Architect" in Stereophile Guide to HT mag, since '98! Also, go through "master Handbook of Acoustics", Home Theater Builder(OK), AV Interiors pertinent atricles(more of Russ Hershcelmann from SGTHT and HT mag), etc. Still, better yet is to consult.
BTW, Russ Herschelmann offers training courses, and he's the premier in the world. Rives and PMI also do consulting, as others. In short, it's simply too much to consult it all out to you on a website for free!...and small room acoustics is an artform and balancing act to get "special"...which is what you want.
Good luck

exertfluffer

You may also want to reconsider puting ANY of your equipment (including amps) on a 30amp breaker. I would suspect any amp would almost certainly *fry* before the breaker even tripped if a problem were to occur on it. I would stick to 20amp circuits for your equipment.

-Jason

jasplat88

Owner
System edited: As you can see i am constructing my room as we speak! PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN WITH COMMENTS/QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS! I can AND WILL modify this room based on help from Agon Members! Thanks!

mrfastguy250aol

At first glance you would probably want to go a bit deeper than 20 feet or bring it in a bit. 20 feet is too close to the multiple of 9.5 feet. You really need to look at all the modes, their spacing, and the Bonello criteria--then you can pick the optimum size. This is possibly the single most important aspect of the design, as it is difficult or near impossible to change later (at least very expensive) and trying to deal with room modes in other ways such as bass traps can be frustrating. Do check the links I provided--they are helpful--and of course if you want us to help you directly we'd be happy to.

rives

Owner
Thanks for the comments Rives, actually I am beginning to research this information right now, and your company was one of the recommendations, i will look at your websight and probably be in contact soon, i have the contractor lined up now to do the structural modifications (there are limitations of course) ;-( As it looks now the room will HAVE to be approximately 12 feet wide x 20 feet deep with 9.5 foot cathedral celings (for lack of a better term) V- shaped.
I can go ALOT deeper on this room ( maybe as deep as 30 feet) So that is where i will begin my research.

Thanks again for the response.

Greg

mrfastguy250aol

Well, this might be the obvious question--"your building a dedicated room", but outside of that you've said just about nothing about the room. I got excited over "dedicated room", but how is it going to be set up, dimensions, modal response, reverberation times, sabiens. If you haven't built the room yet, take some time to learn as much as you can about acoustical properties of rooms--and by all means design it right, because redesign can cost a lot more than cables. Our website offers some good information, both the listening room (a basic tutorial on room acoustics), and our links which have a resource section for recommended books and other web sites that have valuable information when designing a room.

rives

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