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This is my 8th generation stereo system that started with a Kenwood receiver in college in the 1970s.  This is a great sounding analog system and the most musical yet to my ears.  I am soon to upgrade the digital side with a new DAC and transport.  Eagerly waiting delivery.  Until then I am spinning Vinyl and enjoying my new to me preamps.
I used the Golden Ratio for speaker placement.  The speakers are 7.6ft from the back wall to the center of the woofer and 4.7ft from the side walls.  The listening chair makes a triangle from the distance between the two speakers.  This room allowed me to set it up that way and it works.
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Room Details

Dimensions: 28’ × 17’  Large
Ceiling: 9’


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    • Wilson Sasha DAW
    Great 3 way floor standing speaker.
    • Audio Research Reference 5 SE Preamp
    This preamp uses a 6550 and 6H30 for power rectification.  4 additional 6H30 tubes amplify the stereo signal at line stage level.  This 6550 tube runs hot.  My laser thermometer shows 230+ F on the top of the tube.  I had to lower the middle shelf of my rack to give this preamp at least 7 inches of clearance.  I did not want the shelf over it getting too warm.  Wonderful sound.  This is my first stereo system since the mid 1970s to have remote control (not counting a CD player).  I no longer need to get out of my chair to turn down the volume for my wife.
    • Audio Research Reference Phono 2 SE
    This has the same tube set as the Ref 5SE although it does not run nearly has hot.  I bought both the Ref 5 SE and this Phono 2 SE at the same time moving away from an older single box ARC preamp.  It is quite a step up in clarity, imaging and a much lower noise floor.  I have been very happy with the change.  btw- I love peering under the clear cover to see the circuit boards.  Beautiful layout of capacitors, tubes and transformers.
    • Pass Labs X-260.8 monoblocks
    Just upgraded to these new mono amps.  I noticed a bit bigger soundstage and clearer, more detailed bass as compared to my old X-350 amp.  The X-350 is a classic and hard to let go.
    • Aries-Cerat Hele'na
    This is a R2R ladder DAC with a SET tubed output stage.  Produced in Cyprus, this DAC also allows for adjusting the tube bias voltage with a built in voltmeter.  A GZ34 tube is used in the rectifier and two E280F tubes power the output.  This thing is a beast weighing in at about 85 lbs.
    • Antipodes K50 G4
    This is the current Gen 4 K50 Player/Server.
    • Sota Nova VI w/Condor Eclipse motor and Roadrunner Speed Control
    This is my new Nova VI Turntable.  I got all the options.  This turntable features a magnetic bearing and the Eclipse Condor motor package with the Roadrunner spead control system.  The Eclipse Condor package is an A/C motor with a very precise sine wave controller- the Condor.  Lift of the motor cover and the Condor controller is visible inside the plinth.
    • SME 309 Tonearm
    This is a rock solid performer.  I find it works very well with both MM and MC cartridges.  It does prefer heavier cartridge bodies.  Benz, Koetsu and Soundsmith cartridges work out well giving this tonearm system a resonance at 10 Hz.
    • Soundsmith Zephyr Star MIMC ES
    I wore my Benz cartridge down to a stub.  After much deliberation I decided to try the latest Zephyr Star by Soundsmith.  It sounds great and has outstanding tracking.  A couple of old records that I was resigned to accepting distortion on a few tracks sound perfect with this Zephyr.  I am very pleased with this phono cartridge.
    • Ayon Audio CD-T mkII
    This is a CD transport with vacuum tube output.  This transport upsamples CDs to 88.2 kHz PCM output through I2S, BNC, AES, RCA, OPT, or it can also output the CD code in DSD format using three BNC connectors- MCLK, DSD L, and DSD R.
    • AudioQuest Niagara 5000
    Powers the front end
    • AudioQuest Hurricane
    Power Cord for the Niagara
    • Nordost Silver Shadow BNC
    I got three of these BNC cables to run between the Ayon CD transport and DAC.  It takes three BNC cables for MCLK, DSD R and DSD L output/input.  I know this breaks away from a complete Purist Audio Design cable system, but I felt these would be superior for the money.
    • Purist Audio Design Diamond Revision 30th Anniversary USB
    1.0m USB from the RS9 Music Server to the DAC
    • Purist Audio Design Dominus Rev B XLR Interconnects
    Big step up from the Museaus Line between my preamp and amps.  Wow! So musical.
    • Purist Audio Design Corvus Diamond Revision Power Cord
    Pair of Corvus Diamond Revision Power Cords for the Amplifiers
    • Purist Audio Design Corvus biwire shotgun Luminist Speaker Cable
    Nice upgrade from the Museaus line.  Better bass and more 3 dimensionality.
    • Purist Audio Design Venustas XLR
    This interconnect goes from the DAC to the Preamp.
    • Purist Audio Design Aqueous XLR
    This interconnect goes from the phono preamp to the line level preamp.
    • Purist Audio Design Aqueous Aureus (Luminist Revision) Power Cords
    These power cords are used on the Phono and Line Stage ARC Preamps.
    • Purist Audio Design Aquila Digital Power Cord 1.5 m
    This is their series VII Power Cord made for digital devices such as DACs.
    • Purist Audio Design Genesis Luminist Phono Cable
    1.2 meter Tonearm Cable that lowered the noise floor on my analog side.  The sound easily bests the cable that came with my tonearm.  Should have upgraded years ago.
    • GIK Acoustics 244 Bass Traps and Panels
    Wow!  Room treatments are an effective way to upgrade a system.  The biggest thing I noticed was clearer voices.  More detail as well as cleaner mid bass.  These traps took away the bloated mid bass.  I find these treatments to be very cost effective.
    • VPI Industries HW-16.5 Record Cleaning Machine
    Gotta clean those records.
    • English Electric EE8
    Audio grade network switch with reclocking and high quality SMPS.
    • LHY SW-8
    Network Switch with a built in OCXO clock.
    • IsoAcoustics Gaia Titan Theis
    Added these to my Wilson speakers.
    • Hifi 25 Watt Power Supply 5 Volt power supply
    This power supply replaces the wall wart used to power the network switch.
    • AudioQuest NRG Edison 20
    20 amp power outlet for the Monos.  I was surprised at the improvement in sound this outlet made.  Not cheap but it did something.
    • VPI Industries HW-16.5
    • Audio Additives Digital Stylus Force Guage
    This gage works well.  It comes with a 5 g weight for the auto calibration feature.  Quick and easy to use.
    • RSX Power 8 20 S
    An aluminum chassis power distribution box with a 20amp IEC type connection.  Using it with the subs and main amplifier.
    • No Name Cable Risers
    Designed and built by myself.
    • No Brand Audio Rack made by me
    I built this rack in my shop.  Took me a good week but was worth the effort.  I have almost infinite adjustability, superb isolation.  Best of all this rack is rock solid.  I did something right for a change.  I used butcher block boards, 3/4" threaded rod and brass acorn nuts.  The brass polished up nicely using my car polisher.  I mounted spikes on the bottom side.  The entire rack is heavy and it doesn't budge.
    • AudioQuest Vodka Ethernet Cable

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You are correct.  It is an Aquila, Luminist Revision.  It is the only power cord that I have used on my K50.  I bought the new Aquila, Diamond Revision and put it on my DAC a few weeks ago in anticipation of getting an Antipodes music server.  I wanted the same power cord for both digital components.  
The Aquila power cord was a big step up in sound for my previous Ayon DAC.  So I didn't hesitate to use it with the Hele'ne DAC.  
The CEO of Antipodes said in a video interview to treat the K50 like an amplifier.  It needs a big power cord and needs to be plugged into a high current outlet.  He cautioned plugging it into a source outlet on a power conditioner.  So I have the K50 plugged into the Amplifier outlet on my power conditioner.  The Aquila is 12 AWG equivalent and are reportedly designed for use with digital components.  12 AWG has pretty high current capacity although the Corvus power cords on my amps are 8 AWG equivalent.

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you for noticing.  I have every component in my system isolated with springs.  What I found is that the sound is better if the components sit on a shelf utilizing their own feet while the shelf is isolated from the floor with springs.  Even the Sota Turntable, which has built-in spring isolation benefits with the Isoacoustic feet supporting that carbon fiber shelf that the turntable sits on.  
I have the digital components sitting on Delrin boards and the preamps on butcher block boards, all sitting on spring isolation.  I can’t say it was a big difference but I tended to prefer the preamps on wood and the DAC and Transport on Delrin.  The graphs in my system pictures show the value of spring isolation.  Those graphs were made by thumping on the equipment rack but I can also see the difference when playing music.  Floor bourn vibrations can move up the rack and also the amp stands.  So I placed 48lb/in springs on the feet of my amp stands to isolate the amps.  It is very effective.  The end result was more clarity and detail.  It makes an amazing difference.  So much so that it takes a while to get used to it.  At first I thought about taking the springs out but once I heard that new found clarity I could not go back.
This started as an experiment to isolate my previous speakers, the Thiel CS6’s with springs like the Townsend Podiums.  I bought springs and butcher blocks.  The isolation was very effective.  That led me to buy springs for all of my components.   Eventually, I bought the IsoAcoustic Gaias for my Thiels and found they sounded even bettter.  So I used the springs and butcher blocks on my subwoofers in my HT system.  Very effective- clean, powerful bass and crisp.  Duplicates gunshots and expolsions in movies quite well.
 

tonywinga

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Exciting upgrade- I got a new Antipodes K50 music player/server.  It easily bested my old music server right out of the box.  After 27 hours of break-in, I was spellbound by the sound and it still has 373 hours to go for full break-in.  Looks like a keeper.

tonywinga

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I just made a big and exciting change to my system.  I have purchased the Aries-Cerat Hele'ne DAC.  The Kronos had some issues so I ended up returning it.  I have heard so much about R2R Ladder DACs that I decided to give that a try.  The Aries-Cerat gear seems to get a lot of good press and I have come to trust my dealer's recommendations.
This 85 lb brute comes in a wooden crate.  With the help of my son we hoisted this monster onto my platform with spring isolation footers*.  This DAC is optimized for USB input and accepts only PCM- no DSD, no oversampling.  After giving it some thought, I realized that I stream PCM 99% of the time.  So no misgivings about not having DSD playback capability.  I am using the AES from my CD Transport to the DAC.  This DAC double re-clocks the incoming USB and it can also re-clock the income AES and Coaxial signals as an option.  Tube bias can be adjusted by turning the black knob next to the built-in voltmeter.
First impressions is that this DAC does everything better.  It is not just better bass or better highs- it all sounds better.  Cellos sound as real as I have ever heard them on my system.  Piano is the best that I have ever heard on my system.  Clarity- vocals, bass, cymbals all have more clarity.  The cymbals rival the best of the best of my vinyl.  The most satisfying thing so far?  I played Chris Isaak's, Wicked Games on CD.  Since I got that disc in the 1980s the one thing that has always bugged me is the words that the background vocalists are singing were obscured.  For the first time, those words are clear.  I can understand what they are saying.  Finally, I can hear it all on that recording.  That is impressive.
At this level of gear it is difficult to monetize the improvement in sound.  Do improved highs make the difference, or improved lows?  How can I justify the sound per dollar amount?  I can't really.  It comes down to this:  could I live with a lessor DAC or not?  And in this case I don't think I could now.

*I optimized the spring footers for the weight of this DAC.  I show an accelerometer graph that is placed on the top of the DAC.  That graph shows the effect of isolation while I rap on the floor with a heavy steel ball.  The only reaction is at the Fn of this spring/mass system which is about 6 Hz.  Isolation makes a difference.

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you kind sir.  I did the acoustic treatment by trial and error.  I did not use a software program to optimize.  That would have been a lot faster.  I worked over several months experimenting with placement and adding more panels.  The diffusion panels on the ceiling came last.  I bought some, tried them out in different locations got results that I liked so I bought more panels and added them to the ceiling too.  The cloth covering was to reduce the intensity of the look of the diffusers.  That was the only purpose.  The cloth is semi transparent which means the cloth should be transparent to sound waves too.  I didn't hear a difference before/after I installed the cloth coverings.  
The wall behind my listening position is 12 feet away.  I did not hear any difference with diffusers or absorber panels on that back wall behind me.  The wool rug on the wood floor is a major component of my acoustic treatment.  I also added a couple of small rugs to the floor.  I had carpeting before but I do not like the sound with carpeting.  I prefer to start with a wood floor and add absorption to taste.  I can control the amount of liveliness that I want using rugs.  Wool rugs are supposedly the best material acoustically.

It is a good thing I am retired.  If I had this stereo while I was working, I might not ever made it to work.  :)
  

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you.  You see the OCD?  Actually very happy with the sound now.

tonywinga

Owner
I just upgraded my DAC.  I moved from my Ayon Stealth XS to the Ayon Kronos Signature.  It is one down from their top of the line DAC- the Kronos Ultimate.  I have been thinking about this for a good while and when a used/almost new Kronos came up for sale I grabbed it.  I am very happy with the new DAC.  The Stealth XS is a very fine DAC.  The Kronos is next level and a better fit for my system, I think.  I have see-sawed my way up in my system over the past couple of years.  First, with new preamps, then new amps, next was the Ayon Stealth XS and CD-TII, a new turntable and then the Sasha DAW speakers.  
The Kronos has more clarity but also smoother highs.  The bass is better and best of all Cellos sound more natural.  I had become somewhat obsessed with the Cello because the band at church has a cellist.  I would stand near the stage and listen to him practice and come home and listen on my system.  Vinyl was good but digital was a little off.  The Kronos nails it, I think.
Was it worth the substantial extra money over the Stealth?  I don't have buyers remorse; but it has only been a couple of days...

tonywinga

Owner
You can see two pictures of the room now where I added sound diffusers to the sloping walls and then I made frames with cloth covering to place over the diffuser panels.  That's because my wife did not like the look of the panels.  So for not much money but a whole lot of work I made wooden frames and stretched thin cotton cloth over them.  
I have been enjoying the stereo now in this treated room.  The bass is the best that I have ever had.  Listened to Eric Clapton's "After Midnight" on the Lady in the Balcony session last night.  The bass guitar at the beginning of the song sounds deep and strong.  Each bass note is strong and forceful- not at all muted because the notes are so low.  The clarity is the best ever now without any edginess in the highs.  I typically listen for twice as long as I plan every time I sit down.  

tonywinga

Owner
The latest work on my stereo system hasn't been adding electronics or cables.  I have been working on the room.  Room treatments are effective tools for getting the most out of our stereo gear.  I've known this since back in the 1990s when I built a dedicated listening room with treatments.  Along that line I have done more experimenting.  I bought some diffuser panels to attach to the sloped sides of the walls and the ceiling.  These were not expensive at all.  I had very positive results.  The diffusers improved clarity and image focus.  I added the panel in steps to experience the progressive improvement and to make sure it was not a detrimental change.  I kept adding more panels and the sound kept getting better.  In all, I have added 36 panels now.  I do not intend to add more.  It sounds better than it looks.  I'm getting accustomed to the look.  Luckily, it is a dedicated listening room.  
I stuck the panels to the ceiling and walls with 3M adhesive patches.  They are not coming off without requiring some wall repair.  This is stereo living with fortitude.

tonywinga

Owner
A few new developments since my last post.  I rearranged the room first by moving a sofa into my listening position.  This is my favorite sofa that we have had for years.  We got a new sofa for the family room but I could not let this old friend go.  I actually enjoy listening more on this couch than my previous leather recliner.
I also moved bass traps into the dormers on the sides of the room.  Big difference in how the bass sounds.  Love it.  I also learned that moving the speakers closer together moves the bass nodes upwards towards the ceiling.  I had not realized until recently how much speaker distance apart affects the bass response.  I also moved my GIK wall absorbers from the back wall to the side walls near the speakers.  This improved clarity in the highs.
The last stage of building my new system is complete with the addition of the Dominos XLR cable from the preamps to the amps.  I started out with the lower line of Purist Audio Design Cables just to see what I thought of them.  I have now upgraded all of my cables and power cords to the upper middle and in one case the upper level (Dominus) Purist cables.  This is as much as my wallet can take  :) The sound is excellent.  It is interesting how Purist is able to "maneuver" the sound quailty of their cables as I move up the product line.  The higher level power cords make a profound difference in the highs and producing a quiet, black background.  Amazing what power cords can do.  Up to a few years ago I would have never believed it.

tonywinga

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Thank you.  I think it sounds pretty good.  It has been difficult to stop making changes.  I think I am about done for now.  I mean, when changes are down to SFP’s, what else?
I haven’t played a record in over a month now.  I have been captivated with the sound quality of streaming after adding the network switch.  I have spent a lot of time these past two years studying and learning about the digital streaming side of music.  It was frustrating at times and always agonizing over choices with little to no direct listening experience.  I was planning to upgrade the FMCS or get an audiophile network switch over a year ago.  I hesitated because I was not sure the benefit would justify the cost.  When I saw the SW-8 I thought it would be a good value.  It turned out to be a good move.  The SFPs were a small risk as well.  But the most notable thing now is that I am listening to music for music’s sake.  I am no longer wondering how to make the bass better or how to tone down the highs or how to make the digital soundstage bigger. I am finally just enjoying the music.  

tonywinga

Owner
I added the Finisar 1475 SFPs to my FMCs.  They made a change to the sound.  Combined with the LHY SW-8, they have made streaming music most enjoyable.  To sum up my network configuration, I have a Netgear modem feeding a DECO Wifi 6 router.  A Cat 7 cable comes out of the router to a FMC powered with a linear power supply to a second FMC with a linear power supply.  These two FMC's are not fitted with the Finisar SFPs.  A Cat 7 cable exits the second FMC and goes into the LHY SW-8 Network switch.  An AQ ethernet cable exits the network switch and goes into my music streamer.

tonywinga

Owner

 I haven’t thought of this until now but here is a breakdown in percentage of my components to total system cost.  I will leave out room treatments and dedicated outlet costs.  Btw- I started using dedicated outlets in 1988.  It was such an improvement that I have added them to every house that I have owned since.  Don’t hesitate to do it.

Speakers 28%

Amps 11%

Preamps (both line and phono) 18%

DAC, Transport 11%

Music Server/streamer (ROON) 2%

TT/Tonearm/Phono cartridge 9%

Tweaks such as footers, linear power supplies, etc 2%

Cables 15%

Power conditioner 5%

tonywinga

Owner
I added a picture of my first bit of stereo gear.  That is from 1977.  It is a Kenwood receiver and a tape deck that I bought from my cousin.  I had a couple of 2 way speakers sitting at each end of my bed.  Almost never turned it off.

tonywinga

Owner
My newest addition are the Aqueous Aureus power cords for the ARC preamps.  They have over 200 hours of break-in time now.  Sound is excellent. Amazing the difference power cords can make.  I moved up from the PAD more basic Musaeus line to these power cords.  Noise floor dropped noticeably.  Highs got smoother, more delicate sounding.  But the surprise was after about 160 hrs the bass changed.  It was like I either moved or changed the speakers. The bass became stronger and clearer.  Even a buddy who came by a day after that change noticed the difference.  
The system is there.  I can listen w/o fatigue at even loud levels.  The Wilsons are so musical- the music flows out of them like water out of a hose- clear and natural sounding.
Streaming is sounding great using Fiber Optic media converters in between the router and music server.  I find albums I like on Qobuz and if they are 44.1kHz/16 bit FLACC I go ahead and buy the CD or record.  I can hear a slight difference with the nod going to the local source.  Streaming any 24 bit FLACC file is very close to a wash when compared to a local source.  
And btw- I don't know why Ayon does not get more notice.  Their DACs are superior to anything else I have listened to.  I was ready to drop some $$$ on a $15k+ DAC but then started looking into the Denafrips and Holo top DACs.  Good for the money but not quite there in absolute sound terms.  Ayon is there in absolute sound terms.  To me, my Ayon DAC bested the $15k+ DACs that I heard.  But that was after I added the PAD Aquila Digital power cord to my DAC.  Yes, quite a difference it made.  A true treasure of a find.

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you milpai.
Some  might be wondering after spending 10’s upon 10’s of thousands of dollars on Wilson speakers what did I gain over the Thiels.  I think I can explain it- at least make up something that the wife would believe.  First of all, the costs are not proportional to the gain in sound quality.  Maybe it is cheaper than going to live concerts five times a week or hiring a live singer and band every weekend.  Concert tickets are crazy expensive.  First, the bass- the bass is goes deeper and is clearer on the Wilsons over the Thiels.  Good bass costs money.  I added subwoofers to the Thiels about 2 years ago in an attempt to stave off the Wilson purchase.  I got good quality subs.  It took me months to get them placed and integrated to the point that I liked the sound.  Still, the bass always seemed to sound better in the back of the room vs. my listening position and better when standing vs sitting.  In spite of all that the Wilson bass is better hands down.  The crazy thing is, the bass sounds the same everywhere in the room with the Wilsons- standing or sitting.  In fact, the music sounds nearly the same from anywhere in the room just more focused in the listening position.  Next, the soundstage.  The Thiels have a big and deep 3D soundstage with sharp imaging.  The Wilsons go bigger and deeper and way taller.  The Wilsons also have more resolution.  I can explain it like this.  If I close my eyes while listening to a song, the soundstage goes well beyond the walls.  After listening for a few minutes with my eyes closed, I open my eyes and am shocked to see walls in the middle of the soundstage.  I love doing that.  Still works every time.  But another thing that surprised me was the first time I played a Chorale piece on the Wilsons.  The choir was in front of me floor to ceiling.  I was dumbstruck.  I could hear the individual voices spread across the stage.  That’s the difference in resolution.  The Thiels have sharp imaging but in the case of this choir it is more like a cloud of sound.  The voices are there in front of me but they are blurred together.  The difference is like being in back of the hall vs right in front of the choir maybe.  And lastly, the highs are sweeter with the Wilsons.  Probably the difference of 15+ years of research and development in both speaker and capacitor technology.  Just wanted to talk a bit more.

tonywinga

Owner
I know,right?  I found the lamps on Amazon.  Living in a rural area leaves me little options shopping for items such as these. They are a thin fiber almost like paper on a steel frame.  I put in programmable color LED bulbs.

tonywinga

Owner
I have had the Wilsons about a month now.  What I have learned is that the Wilsons like to hug the walls.  This is a different paradigm for me compared to my Thiel speakers.  The Thiels want lots of space.  The needed a 4 foot radius of clearance all around the Thiels.  I think my struggle with the Wilsons at first was getting past that old paradigm.  I have finally found the spot where I like the Wilsons the best.  They are close to the front and side walls.  Funny thing is that except for at the extremes- ie. the speakers about 17" from the walls, the imaging and soundstage is not affected so much by speaker placement.  The bass response is heavily dependent on speaker placement.  I finally learned that and the current speaker placement sounds excellent.  The bass is amazing.  It seems like I am using subwoofers but I am not.  The clarity of the bass is so good.  The other lesson learned is that I had to move back from the speakers.  The speakers are almost 10 feet apart now.  I have to move back to 12 feet away from the speakers.  At that point the soundstage is in full bloom stretching from wall to wall and floor to ceiling.

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you for the comments.  I am impressed with the Purist cables.  The Musaeus line is very good.  As I worked on my room and isolation of components the detail and resolution just kept increasing.  The cables have not held back the improvements.  After getting the Wilsons I moved up the Purist line with the speaker cables jumping from Musaeus to Corvus+.  The plus is because the cables are bi-wire cables with single terminations- shotgun they call it.  The Corvus speaker cables give me more of everything over the Musaeus line- more bass, more impact, more clarity and an expanded soundstage.  A lot of money but I definitely gained a lot.  Next step is power cords on the amps.  They should arrive this week, I hope.

tonywinga

Owner
After some more work I found the speakers needed to be closer to the front wall.  I redid the speaker placement method and found a spot 47" from the front wall to the front baffle.  Quite a bit closer than before.  The bass is much richer with more impact and slam.  I also moved them closer to the side walls with a little more toe-in.  The imaging is excellent and the sound stage very expansive.

tonywinga

Owner
Speaker placement:  I started by using the Wilson Audio Speaker Placement Method.  This is the final position of the speakers.  Using the front baffle and centerline of the speaker, they are 68" from the front wall and 46" from the side walls which puts the speakers 9' 1" apart.  I used a laser pointer to adjust the toe in.  The best toe in I found was positioned so the laser dots are 17" apart at my listening chair.  That makes the inside walls of the speakers just visible from my sitting position.  This gives me the best balance of bass and soundstage.  I like the imaging more with the speakers further from the front wall but I start to lose the bass when I do that.  I was moving the speakers in 1/2" increments.  Spent about 5 hours positioning and rating the sound.  It takes a while.
The starting point was 60" from the front wall and 44" from the side walls.  The sound got chesty when I moved the speakers closer to the side walls.  

tonywinga

Owner
I added the GAIA Titan Theis footers by Isoacoustics yesterday.  These footers made a dramatic improvement.  First, I have a hardwood covered suspended floor.  The Wilsons provide deep, powerful bass.  With the Wilson Diodes/Spikes the floor was vibrating.  I could feel it in my feet.  Changing to the Titan footers the vibration in the floor is gone.  The sound is crystal clear now.  The bass nice and tight.  The soundstage got bigger and I hear even more detail.  
Without these footers the Wilsons had better bass than the Thiels with GAIA I footers but the Thiels were almost on par with the Wilsons for imaging and soundstage.  Now the Wilsons far surpass the Thiels in all categories.  I can't stop listening.
BTW- I wasn't sure so I left the Wilson Diodes on the speakers.  So the GAIA Titans are mated to the Wilson Diodes.  That puts the speakers 1.5" higher off the floor as compared to using the Wilson spikes with the diodes.  I can couple the Titans directly to the speakers which would bring them back down to the original height off the floor. I wanted to try them first with the Wilson Diodes.  My thinking is- the higher the woofers off the floor the better and I can position the upper tweeter/midrange module to match my listening height.

tonywinga

Owner
I just made a big move.  I got the Wilson Sasha DAW's.  They sound splendid.  With that I moved up the Purist Audio line with some new speaker cables and have ordered new power cords for the Amps.  Staying true to isolation I have ordered a set of IsoAcoustics GAIA Titan Theis footers for these beasts.  Looking forward to hearing the improvement these footers will make.

tonywinga

Owner
My Sota Nova VI has arrived!  I have listened to about 20 albums so far and absolutely love it.  The magnetic bearing is brilliant.  It is dead quiet.  If I play a record really, really loud all I hear now- on a good record with quiet vinyl is just a tinge of groove and a hint of rushing sound from the phono preamp.  But I qualify that with a super quiet listening room and the volume up very high.  The background is dead quiet at reasonably loud listening levels.  What I thought was groove noise before included some platter rumble apparently because the groove noise even on noisier records is quieter.
The speed control system is near perfection.  I played a test tone and hear no w&f.  Speed drift is a thing of the past with the Roadrunner tachometer.  My iPhone app shows the same speed every time which also correlated to the Tachometer readout.  
The sound of this new table is excellent.  Perhaps it will have some break in improvement but already the improvements over my old Star are more clarity in the mid bass and the bass.  The highs are sweet.  Cymbals have a delicate sound with every detail from the stick hitting the metal to the decaying shimmer.  Older analog recordings make hearing cymbals a whole new experience.
Sound stage is a bit bigger than before and images even sharper in focus.  I think the  speed control is responsible for the improved highs and imaging.  This new Turntable looks almost the same to the casual observer.  The only notable difference over my Star is the now two silver buttons on the motor cover.  The turntable now starts/stops and toggles speed between 33 1/3 and 45 rpm by pressing the large black button which used to be the speed adjustment.  Now turning that black knob does nothing.  The two silver buttons are used to adjust speed.  One bumps the speed up in small increments and the other down.  These are only needed if someone wants to run the platter a bit fast or slow.  The Condor controller locks in the speed at 33 1/3 or 45 rpm.  The road runner tachometer uses a speed sensor under the platter to feedback speed to the Condor.  It can make small fine adjustments to compensate for speed drift due to temperature changes, etc.  One thing I noticed is that I could put my finger against the side of the platter to induce some drag but the speed did not change.
The Nova VI also features a new suspension system.  I don't have the details but one thing I did was to place a small mirror on the subchassis by the tonearm and bounce a laser beam off of it to the wall.  The multiplier of the lengths was about 30 to 1 and yet I could detect no movement of the laser spot on the wall.  This is very impressive.  That means the subchassis is not being moved as the motor pulls on the platter.  This is a big improvement over my Star.

tonywinga

Owner
I am between turntables at the moment.  I have turned in my Sota Star with the Series VI motor to Sota for a trade up to a Nova VI with the Eclipse motor and Roadrunner tachometer system.  The new table will also feature Sota's magnetic bearing and of course I will stay with the vacuum platter system. I picked out a beautiful Cherry wood plinth.  Can't wait to hear it.  I bought a couple of new records in anticipation.

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you @ghdprentice.  I enjoyed the X350 for 19 years.  I thought about the X350.8 for an upgrade but always wanted to try monoblocks.  The update was noticeable.  What struck me most was the attack/decay of the new monobolcs.  Cymbals have a more fast clean sound with a clear attack and shimmer.  The other surprising thing was even with a lower power rating (90 w/channel less) I didn't have to change the typical  volume setting on my preamp.
I have heard the ARC Ref 160m amps.  Very nice and quite a looker.

tonywinga

Owner
My preamp has two sets of main outputs.  I have used both sets for a year now.  One set drives the main amplifiers and one set drives the subwoofers.  I had not considered the load on my preamp caused by driving two sets of amplifiers until the 6550 regulator tube went bad in my preamp.  I found in the ARC Ref 5SE manual that 20kOhms output minimum is stated in the specs.  Well, since my main amps have a 22kOhm input impedance and my subwoofers also have a 22kOhm input impedance my preamp was seeing a load below 10kOhms.  I contacted ARC and confirmed this was the case and that kind of load will affect the sound.  SVS and ARC both recommended to connect the subs in series with the main amps.  The only problem with that is my PAD interconnects are not long enough so I would have to buy longer ones plus two additional cables to run from the subs to the main amps.  I found a different solution.  I am using the Clean Box Pro as a buffer.  It has a 100kOhm input impedance so it does not load down the preamp.  Combined with the main amps the preamp sees a min 17.3kOhm load.  Sound is improved and I find the 6550 regulator tube in the preamp is running a bit cooler.

tonywinga

Owner
My latest addition to my system is the PAD Diamond Revision 30th Anniversary USB Cable from the music server to the DAC.  It has been playing for 30 hours now and it sounds pretty good.  It replaced an AQ Coffee USB cable which I have been wanting to replace for a while.  The PAD USB cable is astronomically priced, used it is just really expensive but it is a very fine, pure Ag cable.  Compared to the old USB cable this one has more detail in the highs.  The ting when the sticks hit cymbals is very clear and concise now.  It also eliminated some glare that was almost not noticeable until it was gone.

I also have learned much about isolation over these past couple of months.  Springs isolate while rubber dampens.  I didn't fully realize that concept until recently- and I'm an engineer.  Rubber like Sorbathane, which I have used for years under components dampen but not completely isolate the component from external vibrations.  And since rubber dampens it can add coloration.  Springs when tuned properly completely isolate a component from external vibration.  Tuning the springs is more quickly done with some math.  The goal is to get the spring mass system (The component is the mass) to have a resonance point at around 3 Hz.  I used this formula to size springs for my Amps, Subs, Speakers and everything on the front end.  And guess what- the Sota Turntable Suspension is already tuned to 3 Hz.  Here's what happened.  The bass is no longer muddy or boomy.   I didn't know my bass was muddy until I heard the Wilson Alexia 2 Speakers in Atlanta.  Well, now my Thiels sing. The bass is crisp and clear.  Not quite Alexia 2 caliber but very good now.  Imaging improved.  Images are sharper and crisper now.  Detail went through the roof.  In fact, I have so much more detail in the music now that it was distracting or overwhelming at first.  I almost want to go back to how it was before.  But the genie was out of the bottle.  After a few days I grew used to the added detail and now I enjoy it.
Being retired and putting in the time to experiment and learn this past year has been fun.

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you.  I find the PAD cables are musical.  That’s the best word.  I can listen to digital or vinyl for hours.  I usually have to make myself shut it all down for the night.  I keep wanting to hear just one more song.

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you for the kind words.  I just added a photo showing butcher block hardwood boards under the speakers.  Well, beneath those boards are 4 coil springs on each board isolating the speakers from the floor.  The resulting sound improvement blew me away.  Images are more focused with even more clarity.  I’m a believer in spring isolation now.  It started by seeing a lot of posts about using springs for isolation.  I even watched some videos demonstrating the advantages of spring isolators.  These high end platforms cost $$$ and I was reticent to invest that much money into something that I wasn’t convinced would make a difference.  So I did the math to determine that I needed 57 lb/in springs to make a platform with a 3.3 Hz resonance point- similar to the Sota turntable suspension.  I ordered the springs from McMaster Carr and the butcher blocks from Amazon.  The springs are 2” long and 1.5” in diameter. I also got some rubber feet to put on the springs and I stuffed the springs with foam for dampening. I’m in for just $200 which is probably the most effective tweak for the money that I have done yet. I bored holes 0.75” deep on the underside of the butcher blocks.  It worked out perfect.  The platforms have about 0.100” of travel under load so the speakers are not too wobbly.  
Using a vibrometer app on my iPad I could see the difference this isolation makes.  Resting the iPad on top of the speaker and the speaker directly coupled to the floor as I have had them for years, I tap on the speaker cabinet and I see not just a pulse but ringing for a short moment.  The vibration waves are reflecting back through the speaker cabinet.  I saw exactly this on videos online. When I tap on the floor I see the same response and ringing just like tapping directly on the speaker cabinet.  After decoupling the speakers with the springs the difference is amazing.  Tap on the speaker cabinet and the app shows the spike but it doesn’t ring.  Tap on the floor and the iPad app shows nothing- complete isolation.  You might think that the speakers would rock back and forth with the music.  They do not.  It’s a 165 lb speaker that the cone drivers are pushing against.  It doesn’t move.   

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you for the compliment.  I just use a plug in Wi-Fi switch and splitter so I can turn the lamps on/off with my phone. 
I showed a picture of my system to Alan at HiFi Buys last Spring in Atlanta.  He now has the same lamps in one of his showrooms.   I saw them in his store in August when I picked up the Niagara and Hurricane.  I also heard Leonard Cohen (10 New Songs) for the first time in his store.  Love that album now.  

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you for the complement bdp24.  
Well, today I brought home an AQ Niagra 5000 power conditioner and a AQ Hurricane power cord.  Quite expensive but effective.  I heard a bigger soundstage right off and after some hours of playing music the highs are much smoother.  That’s how I would describe it.  The wood floor made the sound more lively and now the highs are calmer with the new power conditioner.  End result is crisper sound with very clear bass but no shrill or head drilling highs. 
This power conditioner is likely a keeper.   Why does the good stuff have to cost so much?

tonywinga

Owner
I just completed a large upgrade to my system.  I changed the flooring from carpet to 3/4" hardwood tongue and groove flooring.  I am very satisfied with the results.  It improved the bass, as I expected making it even more tight and clear.  What I did not expect was a more lively, faster sound.  The Thiels sound better than ever.  It has made me rethink trying new speakers for now.  
I gave up on the contractors and finally installed the wood floor myself.  500 sqft of flooring.  I did it it in two days and lost 10 lbs.  I was sore, stiff and angry that I ended up doing it myself.  All that went away with the first song that I played.
Note the rugs on the floor.  I am still tuning the room with rugs.  My family and friends of course asked me why I am putting rugs on my new wooden floor.  I try to explain that the new floor improves the acoustics and the rugs allow me to tune the room to taste.  They don't seem to get it.
I also added dedicated power lines to the amps and front end.  The amps really benefited from the dedicated power and the AQ NRG outlet.
I have wanted to do this to the room for several years now.  It was a worthwhile effort.

tonywinga

Owner
I had my X350 from 2002 until early this year.  The X260.8 amps were new and changed some as they broke in.  I didn't take notes but the two most prominent things I noticed right away were 1) even with a lower power rating I didn't have to change the volume setting on my preamp with the X260.8's.  They played just as loud for the same volume setting as the X350.  2) I thought the X350 was quiet but the new amps were a good bit quieter.  After they broke in the next most obvious thing I heard was clearer and more detail in the highs and overall a more sweeter sound in the highs.  I can hear the delicate sound of the sticks hitting the cymbals.

tonywinga

Owner
I checked and found that I am rolling off my Subwoofers at 34 Hz, not 27.  Old age, I guess.  Also, I phased the Subwoofers by 30 degrees.  That is based on their position relative to the speakers.  The front plane of the subwoofer drivers are 38 inches behind the speaker woofers.  So I used the wavelength of 30 Hz (30 being about halfway from the Theil's 27 Hz low end and the 34 Hz roll off) and calculated a 29.8 degree phase lag for that 38 inches.  I tried 15, 20, 24 and 30 degrees phasing.  The bass seemed to pop at 30 degrees.  It has worked out really well with the subs.

tonywinga

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I have moved my speakers around a bit.  Currently, measuring from the centerline of the tweeters they are 5 feet from the front wall and 4.5 feet from the side walls.  They are 7’11” apart.  I get the best sounding drums and still a spacious soundstage with this arrangement. 
I also finally ran 12 ga Romex MC wire to my listening room.  Two dedicated circuits power the amps and the front end.  It added some life to the music. 

tonywinga

Owner
Good question.  The subs do not match the Thiels perfectly so I have them rolling off at 27 Hz.  The Thiels do a great job down to that point and then the subs fill in that bottom half octave.  It works out well.  If I set the subs to roll off at a higher frequency such as 50 Hz it seems to muddy up the imaging.  Even 35 Hz had some affect on imaging.  I wouldn't have expected that but that is how it manifested to me.  My preamp has 2 sets of volume controlled balanced outputs so I am able to match up the subs with the speaker volume.  In the end the subs give that extra bit of power and authority at the low end of the music scale.

tonywinga

Owner
I have been tweaking the speaker position lately and I think I have found the optimum arrangement.  Using the center of the tweeters as the reference point, I have the speakers 102" apart, 50" from the side walls and 80" from the front wall- the wall behind the speakers, to the front plane of the tweeters.  My listening position is 122" perpendicular to the front plane of the tweeters.  I find that just a tiny bit of toe in sharpens the imaging so I have the speakers set with 1/2" of toe in.  I am getting a great full sound and a deep and wide holographic soundstage with very focused images.  It is sounding great.

tonywinga

Owner
I have added a music server to my list of sources.  I got an RS9 which is using ROCK to run ROON.  It has a separate 2TB SSD for music files.  I ripped about 90% of my CD collection into FLAC lossless uncompressed files and have them stored on this SSD.  I have also bought and downloaded some hi res audio files.  The RS9 is very stable and works quite well.  The sound is excellent. A USB cable connects the music server to my DAC.  Playing CDs on my CD Transport with DSD upsampling has maybe a slight edge over this music server playing the FLACC files.  I had to A/B a song to even hear any difference because it is so slight to me.  Downloaded hi res audio is excellent.  The soundstage opens up to fill the whole front half of the room.  MQA files are outstanding with sound, imaging and a soundstage perhaps bigger and better than the best vinyl.
I perceived the upgraded power supply (Keces P8) improved the sound of hi res audio but didn't do much for FLACC CD or streaming CD.  But the big improvement streaming CD quality (44.1 kHz 16 bit) was had by adding a network switch between the music server and my router.  I also added a 5 Volt Linear power supply to replace the wall wart on the network switch.  That might be over the top but with this hobby where do you draw the line?  The power supply upgrades took CD quality streaming from borderline acceptable to sounding very close to playing CD FLACC files on the SSD.  The SSD still has the edge with better, clearer bass and imaging- a small edge.

tonywinga

Owner
That was a brilliant suggestion 3090.  Isolating the speakers from the carpeted floor makes a very big difference.

tonywinga

Owner
The Pass Labs amp works very well with the Audio Research equipment I think.  And the Pass Labs amp is a great match for the Thiel speakers as well.  

Thanks for the information about coherentsourceservice.  That is good to know should I ever need to service my Thiel speakers.  I was wondering what I would do should they ever need a repair.  Fortunately for me, I bought them as new demos and they have given me great service.

tonywinga

Owner
Appreciate the comments.  Good catch jeecc.  I had to check.  The "ES" is a sticker on the box that the cartridge came in but not marked anywhere on the body of the cartridge.  Also, you can see that I found another use for the blue tac. Besides using blue tac for cleaning the stylus it is also useful as a cable management tool.
I have had my Zephyr for a couple of months now.  It tracks so well and sounds fantastic.  I marvel at how perfectly the stylus is set into the cantilever.  Great workmanship.

tonywinga

Owner
The Ayon CD playback system which already sounded so impressive continued to make a noticeable improvement up to the 40 hour mark.  I now have about 85 hours on it.  The 3 Silver Shadow BNC cable circuit (DSD 128k) edges out the I2S circuit (PCM 88.2 kHz) by a small margin to my ears.  3 generic BNC cables for DSD were not as good as the I2S circuit.  I also found that the single BNC cable path (PCM 44.1 kHz) was not as good as either the I2S or 3 BNC path but still better than my old CD player.
The overall sound of my system now is excellent to me.  I have been like a kid on Christmas morning everyday for the last couple of weeks.  I can't wait to put on the first CD of the day and be stunned by the sound and clarity.  It's a good thing I waited until I was retired to do all this.  I cannot get anything else done right now.

On the analog side I added the Purist Audio Genesis Phono cable.  For years, decades actually I used the basic phono cable that came with my SME arm.  It sounded decent enough but I always wanted to try a better phono cable.  The Genesis cable came to me already burned or broken in.  The seller put it on a cable cooker for 3 days.  They said it is nearly impossible for a phono cartridge to break in a cable due to the low signal levels.  Ok.  This new phono cable improved the sound with an overall smoothness, and it adds more resolution and detail by lowering the noise floor.  There is good and bad with this.  The good is that I hear more detail in the music.  The bad is that the ticks and pops in the grooves are more apparent.  Quiet records are still nice and quiet but some of my 70s records have a bit of groove noise.  Before, the groove noise usually disappeared once the music started.  Now, due to the lower noise level in the system I can hear the groove ticks in the music.  An interesting side affect of lowering system noise but I have been playing vinyl since the 70s so I have learned to tune out the little ticks.  The other side affect is that pre echo is now more apparent.  I hear it more frequently and more clearly now.  Pre echo is what I call master tape print through.  It's hearing a loud passage that is about to play moments before it actually starts.  But despite these couple of side affects I still much prefer the sound of this new phono cable.

Coming next is a network bridge.  When I started this venture to upgrade the digital front end my goals were twofold.  I wanted to still spin discs with improved sound and to be able to play Hi Res audio files.  Streaming is a side curiosity for me at this point but the Network Bridge will allow me to do both.  

tonywinga

Owner
Thank you everyone for the kind words.  I received my new Ayon CD transport and DAC.  I updated the pictures to show the new gear.
The Ayon gear easily bested my ARC CD 3 mkii straight out of the box.  The ARC is still a good sounding unit, but with 15 years of progress some improvement is to be expected.  After running the Ayon gear for 8 hours the sound improved even more.  Right now, I am using an AQ Cinnamon RJ45 cable between the I2S ports of the CD Transport and DAC.  With the I2s the CD Transport sends out a PCM, 88.2 kHz signal to the DAC.  What I noticed most with the Ayon system is sweeter, airy highs and more detail/resolution.  The soundstage goes beyond the speakers now like my analog rig.  The imaging is also more focused than before with my ARC player- and I thought that was good before.  Next up is to try out this CD playback setup using the 3 stock BNC cables that came with the Ayon gear.  This allows the CD transport to output a DSD signal to the DAC.  After that, I already purchased 3 Nordost Silver Shadow BNC cables to try out as well.  I'm curious to see if upgraded BNC cables will sound different.
Finally, once I get to know this gear better, I will try some isolation ideas on the DAC and Transport.  Interestingly, I found the ARC Ref preamps sound better standing on their own feet vs. using cones or Sorbathane pucks.  

tonywinga

Owner
Appreciate that.  Thank you.

tonywinga