Description

Room Treatment
5/2016 - New room treatment with absorption for main room modes and lots of diffusion. Now working on improving lateral first reflection room treament. 
Results tested with my ears and with Earthworks M30/Roland Quadcapture/REW. 

Performed several mods to the Dunlavy SC-VI speakers: 

(A) External crossovers with original circuit topology:
     (i) upgraded caps and inductors to Duelund CAST copper for the main path,
     (ii) all resistors to Path Audio (sound better than Duelund cast in my crossover),
     (iii) Duelund RS caps for the secondary path and
     (iv) Duelund cast/Mylar for the 220uf in the secondary path,
     (v) Duelund cast silver bypass caps for high and mid CAST copper caps,
     (vi) Changed binding posts to Furutech FT-806R.
     (vii) Kept the two original crossovers for reference, and
     (viii) Final form of external enclosure and vibration control completed in 2017.
     (viii) Put the crossovers on top of two Finite Elemente Pagode Master Reference Mk.II

(B) changed the tweeters to top of the line Seas Crescendo (listened and measured frequency response and impulse response - great improvement, if they did not sound and measure better I would have put back the original Vifa tweeters - yes, this is a radical change),
 
(C) Plan to replace the internal rewiring of the speakers with top hook up wires from Neotech and Mundorf. 

Thanks for your suggestions of additional changes. 

SYSTEM HISTORY: 

DIGITAL SOURCE
**  Taiko Extreme 8TB with USB Card (7/2022).
** Totaldac Server (2/2018) upgraded to Totaldac Sublime Reclocker (6/2023)
Innuos Zenith Statement 4Tb as Roon Core (2019)
Innuos Zenith SE as NAS (2017)
Caps Zuma with two Mojo Audio Joule III - one for 12V (main) and one for 9V (USB) (2013) 
Mac Mini 8gb, i7, 256gb SSD (2011) 
Mark Levinson 37 (1995) 
Accuphase CDP (1994) 

DAC
** Totaldac DAC Sublime (6/2023) with Live Power 
Totaldac Twelve SE (2/2018) w/ Live Power.  Upgrade to Mk.3 (7/2022).
Playback Designs MPS-5 (2012) 
Playback Designs MPD-5 (2011) 
EMM Labs DCC2 SE (2007) 
Mark Levinson 360S (1995) 

PREAMP
**2x Totaldac D1-Driver Sublime XLR (2024) w/ Live power
2x Totaldac D1-Driver XLR (2021) w/ live power 
CH Precision L1 (2017)
CH Precision X1 (2017)
Krell Phantom (2011) 
Levinson 380S (1995) 
Audio Research LS3 (1994)

POWER AMP
** CH Precision M10 stereo (9/2022)
Krell FPB 750mcx monos (2011), re-capped (2011), re-capped with Nichicon Gold (2020), replaced original fuses with SR Blue Fuses (2020).  Sold 9/2022
Krell FPB 700cx (2002) 
Krell FPB 600c (1999) 
Krell KSA-300S (1995) 
Aragon 8008 (1994) 

EXTERNAL PASSIVE CROSSOVERS
 
** Duelund components (2013-2014) 

SPEAKERS 
** Modded Dunlavy SC-VI (2013-2014) 
Dunlavy SC-VI (1998) 
Dunlavy SC-V (1995) 

XLR INTERCONNECTS
** 1 pair Purist Audio Design Diamond 35th Aniv. XLR interconnects 1m
** 1 pair or Echole Limited Edition Model 2 XLR 7ft (2021)
1 pair of Echole Limited Edition Model 2 RCA 3ft (2021)
1 pair or Echole OMNIA XLR 7ft (2017)
1 pair of Echole OMNIA XLR 3ft (2017) 
1 pair of Echole Signature XLR (2013) 
2 pairs Echole Obsession XLR 7ft (2011 and 2013) 
2 pairs NBS Black Label II (2012 and 2013)  (FOR SALE - EMAIL ME)
NBS Omega 0 (2007) 
NBS signature II (1995) 
Kimber (1994)

DIGITAL INTERCONNECTS
** 2x Echole Limited Edition Model 2 AES-EBU for Totaldac DAC mk3 (2021)
** 1x Transparent Reverenc XL AES-EBU for Totaldac reclocker mk2 (2022)
** Intona Ultimate USB 1,5m cable from Taiko to Totaldac (2022)
** Sablon Reserva Ethernet Cable from  to Totaldac (2019)
Totaldac Gigafilter USB cable at server/reclocker (2019)
3 Echole Limited Edition AES-EBU for Totaldac DAC (2019)
3 Echole Omnia AES-EBU (FOR SALE - EMAIL ME)
3 Kubala Sosna Realization AES-EBU for server and DAC (2018)

SPEAKER CABLES
** Kubala Sosna Realization 2m (2018)

Kubala Sosna Elation (2015)
NBS Black Label II 4ft (two pairs) (2011) (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
NBS speaker jumpers (2011) 
NBS Omega 0 (2007)
NBS signature (1995) 
Kimber 8TC (1994) 

POWER CABLES
* 3x Nordost Odin II.  2x20amp for CH M10 and 1x15amp for Totaldac Drivers live power
* Echole Limited Edition Model 2 Power Cable 6ft (2020) for Totaldac D1-Drivers XLR
* Echole Omnia Power Cable 6ft (2018) for Totaldac live  power supply for DAC
* Echole Omnia Power Cable 6ft (2018) for Innuos Zenith Statement
Echole Omnia Power Cable 6ft (2018) for CH X1 
Kubala Sosna Realization (2018) for preamp (X1)
Genesis Absolute Fidelity (2012) for DAC  (FOR SALE - EMAIL ME)
Kubala Sosna Elation (2015) for Preamp
several NBS Black Label II (2011) - Other components (FOR SALE - EMAIL ME)

POWER CONDITIONING
** Synergistic research orange fuses for totaldac power supplies and Innuos (2021)
** Telos Audio Design GNR 3.1 Grounding Box (2019)
** Totaldac Twelve directly to Futurech GTX-X dedicated 220V line (2018)
** Fuse box with Siemens SITOR fuses to dedicated circuits (2015)
** FPB750mcx monoblocks and CH L1+X1 each to a dedicated 220V circuit, three in total with Furutech GTX-R(2013)

**PS Audio P10 (2014): for the Innuos Zenith SE, projector, Apple TV and other components (except for monoblocks, pre, dac and phono that use no conditioning and have dedicated lines)
Synergistic Research Blue fuses for Power amps, preamp and DAC (2018-2020)
Synergistic Research Black fuses for preamp, dac and phono (2016)
Playback designs DAC, Mastergroove mk.II phono directly to Futurech GTX-X dedicated 110V line (2015)
Audience AR6-TS (2011) sold 
RSA Elgar 220V (for preamp) no longer in use (FOR SALE - EMAIL ME)
PS Audio Powerplant (2008) no longer in use
PS Audio P30 (1998) no longer in use

ACTIVE CROSSOVER for two pairs of mono amps (no longer in use)
Pass XVR-1 (2013)

ANALOG FRONT END (gave up on analog in 2017, focusing on upgrading digital)
Technics SP10 mk3 120V modded by Steve Dobbins (sold 2021)
Schroder LT Tonear (sold 2021)
Lyra Atlas (Sold 2017)
Tom Evans Mastergroove mk2 (Sold 2017)
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Room Details

Dimensions: 43’ × 15’  X large
Ceiling: 9’


Components Toggle details

    • Taiko Router, Switch, and DC power distributor
    Taiko router, Taiko switch, and Taiko DC power distribuitor with Plixir Statement 12V DC power supply and statement DC cable. All linked to a dedicated fiber modem and separate internet supplier. Completely separate, dedicated audio network.
    • Taiko Extreme 8TB with USB card
    Taiko Extreme running XDMS Alpha
    Fiber Cable box: GBIC SFP with ifi Elite linear powe supply
    Router/switch:  Taiko Rounter, Taiko Switch and DC distributor with Plixir Statement
    Ethernet cable between Fiber Cable modem and Taiko Router:  Synergistic Atmosphere X ethernet cable
    Cable cable between Taiko Router and Taiko Switch: Taiko dac cable
    USB from Taiko to Totaldac:  Intona Ultimate 1.5m USB cable.
    Daisa platform
    Transparent Opus Gen 6 power cable
    Purchased a Taiko Olympus XDMI.  Wating for delivery 1S2024

    • Intona Ultimate 1.5m USB cable
    Between Taiko Extreme and Totaldac Reclocker Sublime
    • Totaldac Sublime Reclocker
    with livepower power supply
    • Transparent Reference XL AES-EBU cable
    Transparent Reference XL AES-EBU cable from Totaldac Reclocker Sublime to Totaldac Sublime DAC.
    • Echole Limited Edition AES-EBU Model 2 interconnects
    Two Limited Edition Model 2 AES-EBU from the dac reclocker to the two DAC boxes.
    • Totaldac Sublime DAC
    Fantastic DAC. The Sublime upgrade improved dynamics, bass detail, and timbre realism.
    • Totaldac Live Power Power Supply for Totaldac sublime recloker, and sublime DAC
    Five output Totaldac live power supply for the Totaldac Sublime DAC, and sublime reclocker.  Transparent Opus Gen 6 power cord.
    • Purist Audio Design Diamond 35th Aniv. XLR interconnects 1m
    Between Totaldac Sublime DAC and Totaldac Sublime Drivers
    • Totaldac Sublime Drivers XLR
    Two Todaldac Sublime Drivers XLR between DAC and CH M10
    • Echole Limited Edition Model 2 XLR 7ft
    from the Totaldac Sublime Drivers to the CH Precision M10
    • CH Precision M10 stereo
    Fed by two Nordost Odin 2 20amp cables.
    Two Critical Mass Systems Olympus Ultra amp bases
    • Kubala Sosna Realization 2m Spades
    Great speaker cables from top to bottom
    • Duelund CAST external crossover
    Pair of external crossovers for the Dunlavy SC-VIs using Duelund CAST caps and inductors (for the main signal path), Duelund RS caps (for secondary paths). Path Audio resistors.

    The two external crossovers are now on top of Finite Elemente Pagode Master Reference mk.2 platforms (8/2019).
    • Dunlavy Audio Labs SC-VI
    with upgraded Duelund external crossovers, upgraded tweeters, and other upgrades.
    • Nordost Odin 2 power cords
    Two power cords for the CH Precision M10. One power cord for the Totaldac Drivers mk2. power supply.
    • Echole Limited Edition v2. power cord
    Power cables for the totaldac Twelve mk2. live power.
    • Critical Mass Systems Olympus Ultra
    Two amp stands for the CH M10
    • Silent Running Audio Scuttle Mk.3 rack
    SRA Scuttle mk3 rack for the DAC and preamp. Makes a big difference.
    • Finite Elemente Pagode Master Reference Mk.II Platform
    Two Pagode Master Reference plaforms under the external crossovers improved timbre and soundstage.
    • Varios Accoustic Treatment
    Wall on back of speakers:
    - Center with 3 difusers
    - Center with lateral difusers
    - Center with 150hz absortion for room mode
    - Corners: two 40hz ressonators for room mode
    Ceiling:  Difuser
    Side wails: Two Difuser/absorption for first reflection - movable
    Floor: Rug and large foot rest
    • Screen Innovations Solo 3 Slate 1.2 133"
    Top notch motorized ALR screen
    • Dreamvision EOS Signature L 2023 projector
    The Dreamvision EOS Signature L 2023 is a modification of the JVC NZ9 8k laser projector.
    • Kaleidescape Strato C + Terra Prime 22TB
    Kaleidescape Strato C player with Totaldac spidf coax cable
    Kaleidescape Terra Prime 22TB
    • Apple Appletv X
    Extensively modded Appletv. Feeding one of the two HDMI inputs of the projector.
    • audiodharma Cable Cooker Anniversary Ed. 3.5
    Cooks interconnects, cables, and capacitors
    • Earthworks M30, Roland Quadcapture, REW
    Room accoustic measurement, for speaker positioning, room treatment, and maybe DRC
    • Cara 2.2 plus
    Room Simulation and positional optimization software

Comments 136

Owner
Several recent changes:

a) Added CH Precision L1 + X1 preamp.  Improvement over the excellent Krell Phantom in terms of detail, imaging, realistic timbre, and more open sound.  

b) Added 2 pairs of Echole Omnia interconnects, replacing Echole Obsession.  Improved realism of instruments, detail, and more open sound. 

c) Added Innuos Zenith SE (2Tb SSD) as server, replacing CAPS Zuma. Big improvement in soundstage and low frequencies. 

d) Put my Playback Designs MPS-5 DAC on the RSA Scuttle mk.3 rack, replacing the turntable.  Big improvement for the DAC sound.  

e) Put my analog front end rig in stand-by.  Sold Lyra Atlas and Tom Evams Mastergroove mk.2. I will focus on upgrading my digital front end for a while.

Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

Owner
Hello Slowikpl,

One of my photos above show two 56uF Duelund CAST-cu capacitors being cooked using the power cable configuration.  The minimum time will vary depending on the size of the cap, but usually a minimum of 4 to 6 days.

Alan Kafton sent me detailed instructions.  Instead of copying and pasting his long email, I suggest you ask him directly at [email protected] and I am sure he will send you the instructions.

After I installed the caps in the crossovers, it took a few more days playing actual music to finish the conditioning.

Cheers,

VPN


 

vn101606

Hello all.

I have many duelund caps like:

50uF, 8.2uF, 6.8uF, 2.2uF  Duelund CAST 
40uF Duelund VSF copper

Also some 600V Duelund CAST :

4.7uF ,3.3uF , 2.2uF , 1.5uF , 1uF


Heavy someone a piece of advice how long should I clock my Duelund's with my new Audiodharma Cable-Cocker ? 

slowikpl

Owner
New room treatment. Removed the previous, mostly absorption, treament in the wall behing the speakers and replaced with:
- Center with 3 difusers
- Lateral difusers
- Top and bottom with 150hz absortion for room mode
- Corners: two 40hz ressonators for room mode

The sound now has more air, more detail, and the bass is more controlled and faster.  Had to ajust a bit the speakers positioning and toe in. Very good improvement.

vn101606

Owner
Hello Barry,

Thank you.  Yes, I have bees using a laser distance meter for a while.  Positioning and toe-in of speakers is fundamental, besides positioning and height of listening position.
Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

Hello VPN! Wow those Duelunds are big. Very nice job on the crossover. I see you have cooked the parts - they never would have broken in without that extra step. Oh, when you like the final speaker locations, try a laser distance meter to assure that each one is the exact same distance from the listening position. You'll be amazed at the soundstage benefits. Analog setup is great too.

barrysandy

Owner
After many years without one, I purchased an analog front-end: (i) Technics SP10 mk3 modded by Steve Dobbins, (ii) Schroder LT tonearm, (iii) Lyra Atlas, (iv) Tom Evans Mastergroove mk2 phono preamp,  (v) SRA Scuttle mk3 rack.

Steve Dobbins came here to setup the turntable/tonearm/cartridge. Great guy, knows a lot about turntables.

vn101606

I will stay in touch and see your progress. Happy for you and nice work! Fun stuff this slowly modifying and improving a good existing system.

grannyring

Owner
Grannyring, Thank you.

The sound is at a completely different level now with all the upgrades, most important of them are the speaker/crossover mods.

I still have to put the crossovers in their final enclosures that I got from Japan.

Some time in the future I will do the rewiring. I already have the wires, and the two gallons of the Cascode sealing product.

I am still dealing with positioning and room modes. When the positiong gets final I will put under the speakers the eight stillpoint ultra 5 that are waiting in their boxes.

vn101606

I connected the ground wire of the resistor to the negative binding post on the amp side of the crossover.

grannyring

Owner
Grannyring, Thank you! What did you do regarding the extra lead of the Path Audio resistors? Did you connect with the circuit ground or with the - terminal of the resistor?

vn101606

Cut as short as is reasonable and tin. Don't cut too short in case you need to remove and place in a different speaker or crossover board. Then cover in cotton.

grannyring

Owner
Dear Grannyring,

Thank you for the input. They are currently bare copper.

Do you think it is better to get them all tinned, or use shellac?

Better use silk or cotton?

Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

Amen on the Path Audio resistors. I love them! Regarding your question on the Duelund leads. If they are tinned leads, then cotton insulation is best. If they are the bare copper leads, then you need to do more than cotton as they copper will oxidize and that will impact the sound quality over time. Some coat these bare leads with clear shellac and once dry cover with silk or cotton.

grannyring

Owner
Started buying an analog front end, after over 20 years without one!

So far I bought a Technics SP10 mk3 turntable modded by Steve Dobbins, and a Tom Evans Mastergroove mk2 phono preamp. I am deciding which arm, cartridge, and cables to go with them.

vn101606

Owner
System edited: After a long time improving the active biamplification, listening, changing the pass xvr, measuring with REW many times, comparing to normal amplification with passive crossover (my modded external Duelund XOs), it became clear that the passive XO much much better, so I gave up the active biamp and will put a lot of equipment for sale. What matters is the music, and it is great now. In the external crossovers, changed the resistors from Duelund CAST to Path Audio. Changed the 220uF Solen caps parallel to 15" drivers, to Duelund Cast Mylar. Both were good improvements.

vn101606

Owner
C2300mc275, For the Krells I think the cap values are such that you can only fit eletrolitic caps, and wanted to have it done by Krell.

vn101606

Thanks a lot, Vn. Did you consider any of the so called "designer caps" as a performance upgrade? The Mundorfs or Black caps, or dueland, or Jensen?

c2300mc275

Owner
C2300mc275, They now use Nichicon caps for the recap. I sent you a PM with your answer regarding cost.

vn101606

Hi,

Nice setup and work with your system. I recently acquired some krell 750mcxs over here in the UK. They are about 8 years old I believe and although they just had a full check by the UK Krell engineer, I wanted to ask you about recapping. Where did you obtain the caps - from Krell or after market ones? What sort of money was it to recap them?

Cheers

c2300mc275

Thanks Vn101606! Very very interesting feedback and well done on what has clearly been a lot of hard work. Thanks for 'teaching' some of us about this whole process.

lloydelee21

Owner
Grannyring and Lloydelle21, thanks for you kind works. It has been a lot of fun, and great to hear the improvements.

vn101606

Owner
Lloydelee21,

Regarding the biamping, we finished the biampming, which did involve removing the portion of the passive crossover driving the 15" drivers, so they were driven directly by the amps.

We did a lot of trying, measuring and listening to find the best active crossover settings. With the Pass you can, for example, set the first pole to one frequency, and the second and third poles to a second frequency, similar to the effect of the low pass passive crossover for the 15" drivers. I am sure much more testing should be done.

However, it did not bring a significant difference, so I moved back to passive crossover and will try again a few months from now. Potential reasons: (i) Maybe it is because I had one dedicated line for each mono amp, and then put two mono amps in each line, and the Krell 750mcx monos are supposed to have one line each, (ii) Maybe it is because the Duelund passive crossover is so good, and we introduce the Pass XVR additional components in the circuit, (iii) Maybe the settings of the active crossover could have been better.

I will see if I can fit two more dedicated lines. Additionally, one pair of Krell monos just had the full re-cap. Now the second pair is with the dealer to do the full re-cap.

Hopefully in my next attempt I will be able to achieve a substantial improvement. If not, I will just sell the second pair of Krells, the Pass XVR and extra cables.

Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

Vn101606,

Just curious...have you finished the biamping work so that your speakers are now running fully bi-amped? I presume this involved removing the passive bass crossover so that your bass amp drives the woofers directly?

Just curious because I was advised to try this by a few people who own Wilson X1/X2s and have biamped their speakers...very tricky to do. But they said the speakers sound remarkably better. I have even heard this from Wilson dealers and Wilson Distributors who have heard such biamped speakers themselves.

So most curious as to whether this is what you are doing.

And also curious as to what the differences/improvements are. Thanks!!!

lloydelee21

Just wanted to say GREAT WORK...just discovered this thread...and really enjoying reading thru it. Love the dedication to perfect any already amazing set of electronics. Enjoy and pls keep posting!

lloydelee21

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