MagicoQ-1 Ref Spks w Stands !usedMagico Q-1 Ref Spks w Stands !Magico "cost no object", Reference Monitors in Black with their matching handsome factory reference stands as new in factory wooden crate 285 pounds and measures 25.5" by 26.5" by 50" (see attached...10600.00

Magico Q-1 Ref Spks w Stands !

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Magico "cost no object", Reference Monitors in Black with their matching handsome factory reference stands as new in factory wooden crate 285 pounds and measures 25.5" by 26.5" by 50" (see attached pictures in images):

       
                                  

                    
                                               No low offers considered !

NOW Reduced "as new factory wooden crated" to $11,995 for a fast sale please no low offers.

One owner purchased new from Ambrosia Audio & Video my previous company now doing business as Weinhart Design and they are one of the finest legendary pair's of cost no object monitors ever made and highly recommended  !

Comes as new with the matching factory stands and delivered in wooden crates see attached pictures.


Technical Specifications:


Design: Two-way

Enclosure: Sealed

LF Driver: 177m Nano-Tec cone

HF Driver: 25mm MBe-1 dome

Frequency Response: 32Hz–50kHz ±3dB

Sensitivity: 86dBSPL@1kHz@1w@1M

Nominal Impedance:

Minimum Impedance: 4Ω (at 156Hz)

Dimensions (Inc Stand): 1120×370×250mm

Weight: 54kg (Inc Stand)


Price: $28,950 per pair


Manufactured by: Magico
URL: www.magico.net


HiFi + Review in part said:

see: http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/magico-q1-loudspeakers-hi-fi-89/


Their styling is bold... and none more black. The Q1s stand tall for a
pair of floor standers (the 25mm Beryllium dome tweeter is above ear
height for most sofa-dwellers) and the squared off corners and thick
black aluminum plates make the Q1s look like small monoliths from 2001 –
A Space Odyssey. I left some Ligeti playing overnight to give them some
running in and by the time I came down next day, my cats had started
using primitive hand tools. Three days later, they were building a space
station.



Joking aside, the Q1 are an uncompromising styling exercise for the
home. Deliberately so; they make the big, bold physical statement
because audio makes a big statement in its own right through these
speakers. Music is an unapologetically stirring experience through these
speakers and we need more things this uncompromisingly good and
exciting if we are ever to reach out to a new audience.



Although you’ll never get to see inside the box (it’s a sealed box
design, and they do mean sealed), it’s like a little city under the
hood. The cabinet bolts to a complex cross-braced aluminium skeleton,
with additional mounting plates at the front and rear of the cabinet,
for the drivers and the crossover respectively. These massy plates also
add stiffness to an already unfeasibly stiff cabinet. There’s
constrained layer damping inside instead of anything soft and sticky,
fluffy or foamy, because the cabinet is so thick and dense and
non-resonant that a spot of BAF wadding or long-haired wool wouldn’t
make a shred of difference to performance. This does.



The drive units could be seen as a sign of just how seriously Magico
takes the whole process of speaker making. The 25mm beryllium dome
tweeter and 177mm NeoTech (carbon fibre meets Rohacell sandwich)
mid-bass unit have been seen before in the Q5. Except they haven’t; in
the intervening time between the first and subsequent Q models, Magico
has been performing a series of improvements to both drive units. Not
significant enough to warrant Q5 owners returning their speakers for a
new set of drivers, but specific improvements to the Q1 driver set to
make the speaker all the more correct. But in a way, you can see the
dedication that goes into the Q1 in every aspect of the speaker, even
down to the little spike wrench the company supplies with the speaker.



The reason for the stand being an integral part of the design becomes
clear if you scratch the surface (good luck with that by the way; you
might want to try a diamond cutter, because that’s probably the only way
you’ll get under that black coat). The stand is directly coupled to the
speaker by being bolted to it. That acts as an effective damping
mechanism, in precisely the opposite way most stand-mounts at the
high-end tend to work; Magico feels the normal way of minimizing
resonance in standmounts (adding mass to the stand and decoupling the
loudspeaker) is fundamentally flawed.



Magico Q1 Loudspeaker


The result of all this development was a long time coming. A two-way
sealed standmount like this, with its single-wired crossover and
slightly curved front baffle, shouldn’t have taken long to engineer,
given the whole Magico way of things (everything, right down to the
aluminium factory, is in house or made to order). But, given the whole
Magico way of doing things (no retreat, no surrender, no compromise), it
actually took a surprising amount of work bringing these speakers to
market. There is a lot of computer modeling, prototyping, measuring,
listening, re-working and going back to the computer CAD/CAM pen tablet
type thing (it was so much simpler when it was ‘back to the drawing
board’).



The result is a speaker of powerful appearance. It’s a simple, timeless
design in the same way a Le Coubusier chair is timeless. Functional to
the point of utility, engineered at a premium for those who have no
knowledge of the meaning of the word ‘over-engineered’, well
proportioned no-quarter stuff. It’s the kind of loudspeaker that you
want to know how to field-strip it in less than 30 seconds flat with
your eyes closed. It’s all very Y-chromosome stuff; like flight-recorder
boxes, boxing stats and Tonka toys.



Magico Q1 loudspeaker



Installation is simple, but deserves and demands painstaking adjustment
to get it right. Give it some air, preferably a metre or so from side
and rear walls and somewhere between two to three metres apart, with a
slight toe-in. Fortunately, being sealed boxes with almost no rear or
side radiation pattern, if you cannot quite achieve the rear and
side-wall positioning, it’s not a big deal. Like the Mini II’s these
speakers replace, they benefit from being placed in a larger room than
you’d normally consider for floorstanders, but unlike the Mini II,
that’s ‘benefit’, not a mandatory recommendation.



Similarly with amplifier choices, the church has been broadened. It’s a
relatively low sensitivity speaker by today’s standards (claimed 86dB)
but a relatively benign load by the same high-end benchmarks (five ohm
nominal, with just a four ohm impedance dip at 156Hz). This means
amplifiers of 50W and above will drive the Q1 well, although a couple of
hundred watts of good, clean power will drive them exceptionally well.
Especially as the Q1s seem to have been designed for the occasional Mr
Hyde elements inside all of us that leaps out and turns the volume up to
stupid for a while.



There is no such thing as an unburstable loudspeaker. Too little power
played pushed into clipping, or way too much power burning out the voice
coil can kill drive units. But with the Q1, you’d have to really hook
the speakers up to something outrageously powerful and have scant regard
for your hearing to do overpower the drive units. I played AC/DC so
damn loud on these babies, I was unable to hear myself speak two rooms
away and they didn’t turn a hair. For the bulk of the test, I used a
Devialet D-Premier to drive them perfectly (I’d imagine two of them
would drive the Q1s perfectly squared).



My listening notes on this loudspeaker are, er, brief. In fact, just two
words, written big. The second word was ‘… me!’ The other word was
short and earthy and not suitable for publication. The big reason for
this; it goes back to that old and lost goal for audio – high-fidelity –
and makes you remember why it was important. The audiophile-baiter
might turn up their nose at this statement and point at a lesser
loudspeaker and claim that it does the same job at a fraction of the
price. And that argument has complete validity... until they get to the
end of the first bar of music played through the Q1, and realize just
how much closer Magico gets to that high-fidelity goal than other
standmounts.



It gets voices right, making them sound like real people, not
wide-mouthed human impersonators. It gets instruments like the piano
right too, and it’s perhaps here where you start to get an understanding
of why it is so good at its job. Of those 88 keys, I’d say 82 of them
were all present and correct. Of the remaining six, they were portrayed
without boost or bloat, but just didn’t have the same energy and
dynamism of the rest of the left hand. That in itself is remarkable on
any speaker, but on a standmount it’s worthy of high praise indeed.



But what really got me was the way it not only tied everything together
musically, but made a truly huge sound in the process. Not artificially
big, bloated or bounced off the side-wall expanded, but just right. So
when you played ‘Flume’ by Bon Iver, you got that small, falsetto-frail
voice and a real-sized guitar, and when you switched to Beecham
conducting Carmen (EMI), you got all the scale of the operatic stage.
And yet in both cases you could get past the scale and listen into the
music. Justin Vernon (Bon Iver) is particularly key here, because the
recording isn’t stellar and lesser ‘audiophile’ speakers will be caught
out by that. The Magico Q1 just resolves good music.



The big advantage to standmounts is they image better than otherwise
similar floorstanding peers. The disadvantage is the lack of bottom end.
So any speaker that can do both would be an immediate winner, but to
date none do. Until now. Magico claims 32Hz at -3dB in the wild, which
is deeply impressive, but I think is understatement. In my room, there
was still a lot happening at 28Hz. Even the mighty Mini II it replaces
couldn’t compare. The Mini II had slightly less bass and was a lot more
demanding of the room it sat in. The Q1 has a good 8Hz at the bottom end
in room on the Mini II (which means it has a good 8-10Hz in room at the
bottom end on almost every other small speaker), and the Q1 is quite
capable of being installed in small to medium room; the ideal place for a
small loudspeaker to behave like a loudspeaker, which was the big limit
for the Mini II.



Magico Q1 loudspeaker input panel


By making a loudspeaker that works in a small room and delivers
unparalleled bass response, Magico has answered the Big City Audiophile
question. Those who have enough money to afford speakers like Q1s tend
to make their wealth in cities. And if they live in the big city where
the money happens (be it London, New York, Tokyo, Frankfurt, Singapore
or what have you), space is often at a premium. The traditional
loudspeakers the size of a garage door will not work in a room 3m wide
and 4m long, but even that space may set the listener back a fortune.



This is perhaps the most important loudspeaker I’ve ever sat in front
of. Why? Because it doesn’t try to bend the rules of physics. Instead,
it shows us just how much more we can get out of the physics if we try
really hard. Magico’s Q1 demonstrates that real-world and honest
bottom-octave sound is possible from a two-way standmount sealed box
loudspeaker, and from a speaker design that isn’t the size of a large
fridge. That throws down a challenge to all – if the Q1 can do it, why
can’t your speaker? Hopefully, others will rise to the challenge, and
that suddenly raises the standard for audio across the board.



And there’s more! For those who can’t afford the Magico Q1, you should
still be happy this loudspeaker exists. This is the Formula One car of
our world. Things that go on inside this speaker are being watched by
intellects vast and cool and sympathetic to the audio cause, just as
things that go on inside a Formula One car are watched by those looking
to create the next generation of production car. What the Q1 does is
create a trickle down set of ideas for subsequent generations of
loudspeakers (whether or not they have a Magico badge on the front).
That way, audio gets just a little bit better at doing its job. Of
course, if you buy the Q1, you get to be the audiophile equivalent of a
Formula One driver.



So not only is the Magico Q1 an excellent loudspeaker, it will help
bring out excellence in future loudspeaker designs. Rival manufacturers
will need a solution that challenges this speaker, fast. That being
said, I think I’m comfortable in saying it’s going to be some time
before anyone catches up with the Q1. Few companies could even start to
build with the dedication and single-mindedness that is needed to build a
speaker this fantastic.

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