i just realized i still had these a23 cables from a few years back... purchased new by me from one of the ADs for this brand. they are 4m.
still, they have very little use. iirc, the shipping materials for these was quite minimal - e.g., no proprietary packaging other than the small fabric cable tie (included). in any event, that is what is included - a pair of cables and small fabric tie.
i am marking these as "good" but with any fabric-covered cables it is obviously quite subjective - the price seems *reasonable* but i am open to any offers, comments, etc. re: price/condition.